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Hi Wray,
I have ordered your cream after taking the progesterone deficiency test on the website . It confirmed it. I have fibroids in my uterus and fibrocystic breasts.
I am 41 years old. My periods were regular but painful till a year ago. My uterine fibroids have grown and my period cycle now varies between 30-35 days. For example i got my period on the 4th of November but got my next period on the 11th of December. But i continued spotting in November till the 17th of November. I got an ultra sound done and discovered the fibroids. I already knew about the breast cysts since i get an ultrasound every year for them. My healthcare practitioner had the usual knee jerk reaction about getting a hysterectomy!!!. I refused it. I looked for alternative methods and have been following them including life style changes.My December cycle finished as regular and there was no spotting later :) and My hair had also started falling out in clumps which has also stopped.:)
I am already taking the following steps to reverse the estrogen dominance:
1. No dairy products and no soy milk either
2. Supplements- Milk thistle, Serrapeptase, flax seed oil, borage oil, evening primrose oil, NAC, DIM, Chaste berry
3. I have stopped drinking coffee ( which i loved :) ), black tea or any carbonated drinks ( I used to drink a lot of diet coke so obviously I was harming myself). I am vegetarian and eat a lot of raw food, only brown rice, avoid wheat unless I am out and have no choice,no alcohol ( not even on xmas). I drink a lot of water and a fresh shot of wheat grass juice every morning.
4. I am going to do an entire body specially a liver cleanse with veg juices and herbs.
My question is the following:
I dont know when i am ovulating because of this irregularity. When I should i use the cream??
I would really appreciate it if you can provide some guidance. Here is wishing all women in a similar state good luck and i am sure we'll all be fine :)

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Dec 29, 2011
 Additional information
by: Anonymous

I also wanted to add that I have subclinical hypothyroidism and am on 25mg of thyronorm every morning. Many thanks
Jan 02, 2012
 Hello
by: Wray

Hi there Well you couldn't be doing more to help yourself! I'm pleased you're eating a lot of raw food, as I feel that's the only safe way to be a vegetarian. Cooking destroys many essential nutrients and enzymes. Too many believe they can just stop the meat and fish, but continue eating all the nutrient deficient foods like cakes, biscuits, white bread etc. We do have a page on Nutrition with a link to an excellent site on raw food. Their cookbook is outstanding, I've made many delicious foods using it. Because you don't have a regular cycle, I suggest you use the progesterone daily, through your period too, for about 2-3 months. This will ensure progesterone becomes the dominant hormone. Once you feel stable, you can begin following your cycle again. We have info on how to do this on our page How to use progesterone cream. As you're nearing Peri-menopause you might like to look through this page to be forewarned! We do have a page on Fibroids too. Progesterone can help, but it's not a quick fix. Fibroids are a sign of oxidative stress, indicating a low level of antioxidants, please have a vitamin D test done. For more info on levels, testing etc see the Vitamin D Council, GrassrootsHealth, Birmingham Hospital and Vitamin D Links websites. Blood levels should be 70-100ng/ml or 175-250nmol/L and not the 30ng/ml or 75nmol/L most labs and doctors regard as adequate. And the minimum daily dose should be 5000iu's per day, although the latest research indicates it should be 10,000iu's per day, see here. Progesterone is also helpful for sore breasts too, see here, here, here, here, here and here. Continued below.
Jan 02, 2012
 Hello Part 2
by: Wray

Hi there Sore breasts can be caused by lack of iodine too, see here, here, here, here, here and here. An easy way to find out if the level is low is to get a tincture of iodine. Put 3 drops anywhere on the inner arm, rubbing them in with the dropper. If the patch fades in a few hours it means there's a deficiency. Continue applying it until the patch takes days to fade. Alternatively have a blood test. I'm relieved you refused the hyst, it's always better to try the natural route first, before resorting to surgery. I've just seen your other comment about hypothyroidism. This could be caused by nothing more than a vitamin D deficiency, see here, here and here. Take care Wray
Jan 03, 2012
 Thank you so much for your response :)
by: Anonymous

Hello Wray,
Thank you so much for writing in such a detailed response. I really appreciate it and will follow all instructions. I had got my Vit d tested and it was very low. I am on Vit D supplements as well :) So hopefully, I will soon be back to being fit and healthy. I feel very positive and am very glad I gave it a shot. I am looking forward to receiving your cream. I will try the Iodine test to check those levels as well.
My best wishes for you and your team and all the other women who are discovering the joys of your cream. Hope this new year brings great health to all.
Warmly,
Jan 04, 2012
 Thank you so much for your response :)
by: Wray

Hi there Bless you for the kind words, and I hope the new year brings great health to you and others. Please make sure you are taking enough vitamin D, no less than 5000iu's per day. And do let me know how you get on. You are aware of Oestrogen Dominance, but please keep a watch for it when starting the progesterone. And if it occurs increase the amount you're using until it passes. Take care Wray
Jan 07, 2012
 Hello again
by: Anonymous

Hi Wray,
Hope you are doing very well. I have a silly question :) . Will the progesterone help with the peri menopausal symptoms? I experience a loss of libido, heavy bleeding and my second day of my periods is painful as well.Of course there are fibroids, some abdominal bloating and irratinal fear like i am exhibiting through this mail :) :).
The positives are that I am not over weight ( I am 5'-9" tall and weigh 57 kilos) and work, and am determined to kick the problems out! Also, i am with a wonderful man, who is 7 years younger and that is why I am so worried .
So i really hope that the progesterone will help.:)
Many thanks
Jan 11, 2012
 Hello again
by: Wray

Hi there Well progesterone certainly helped me in Peri-menopause, many others too, so I see no reason why it won't help you. But please use sufficient. I did give you the page on oestrogen dominance, if it should occur increase the amount you're using. Do not decrease as so many do, thinking it's the progesterone causing the problem. It's not, it's only because progesterone stimulates oestrogen, this does resolve if enough is used. If too little, it will continue to stimulate it. I suggest using some in your vagina too, it's excellent for any possible dryness or inflammation. It does normally increase libido, we have many using it to good effect. Take care Wray
Jan 27, 2012
 Update
by: Anonymous

Hello Wray,
Hope you are doing very well. I wanted to let you know that I have been using a tea spoon full of your cream divided into two parts, every day. And as warned by you I have seen symptoms of Oestrogen dominance. I have tender breasts and I have been spotting everyday, but just a drop of old blood . It must be the old lining so I am feeling very good about the clean up job :) . I am going to continue till my periods stabilise.
Many thanks
Warm regards
Jan 28, 2012
 Update
by: Wray

Hi there Bless you for letting me know, it's so important for me, for others too. It gives us all further insight into the progesterone journey. Take care Wray
Feb 09, 2012
 Spotting
by: Anonymous

Hello Wray,
Thank you so much for your warmth and support. It really helps women like me get through the uncertainty we may feel during the healing process. I got my periods on the 1st of feb ( last periods- 7th of Jan) and they were only very heavy on the 2nd day. :) Overall they were better with much less pain. I had a night sweat once during my periods. I am still spotting , very very little and all dark brown kind of spotting . I cramped on day 5 when i spotted what clearly looked like pieces of old lining to me. I have been using the natpro cream faithfully. My breasts are a lot less tender, though still mildly tender, mainly around the nipple area. Do you have any idea how much longer it can take before the symptoms of estrogen dominance go altogether? Do you think I am on the road to better hormonal balance and thus health? Are these good signs? :) Apologies if I m asking too many questions and a big thank you again.
Warm regards
Feb 10, 2012
 Spotting
by: Wray

Hi there Thanks for the kind words! And yes you are definitely healing, the old lining is a good sign. Most animals don't bleed like we do, and the lining gets absorbed. Even in humans much of the lining is reabsorbed, the rest bleeds out. But I've found there can be a build up of old lining which for reasons known only to itself, refuses to either be absorbed or bleed out! It's not a good thing. I've noticed that using progesterone seems to 'clean' out the uterus. And how long?! I wish I had that answer. But it's evident from what you say that things are improving. We simply have no idea of what's going on inside, what healing needs to take place. All we're concerned about are the outward symptoms, which can be most unpleasant, but maybe they are minor to what's going on inside! Take care Wray
Feb 11, 2012
 Hello again
by: Anonymous

Hello Wray,
Thank you so much for writing back and for your kind words :) Gives me a lot of strength. I am sorry to ask you another question so soon but I seem to have started bleeding again right now. I got my periods on the 1st and was only spotting very mildly . But I seem to be bleeding right now and cramping. I dont know whether it is the excess lining or my fibroids. Shall i increase my nat pro dose?
I appreciate all the help you have been giving me.
Warm regards
Feb 12, 2012
 Update
by: Anonymous

Hello Wray,
Hope you had a great weekend. I upped my dose to a tea spoon and a half. I am bleeding heavily since yesterday. Is this also a sign of Oestrogen dominance?
Many thanks for all your help in advance
Warm regards
Feb 13, 2012
 Update
by: Wray

Hi there Progesterone can upset the cycle when first using it. It can make the period either earlier or later, although I've found it's generally earlier, which is certainly the case with you. The heavy bleeding is a good sign too, as it means you must have had a thickened lining, which is now coming away. Please hang in there! I see you are following the daily application, even through your periods too, I think you'll find this will be of benefit. It will certainly make sure progesterone becomes dominant and suppress any excess oestrogen you have. The 7.5ml you are using will be giving you about 250mg/day progesterone. I don't feel you need to go higher, unless you have cramping or other adverse signs. Please let me know how you get on. Take care Wray
Feb 13, 2012
 Update
by: Anonymous

Hello hello,
Just updating so that you have all the information- this is the second day that I am bleeding heavily. Huge clots. And it shows no signs of abating :). I had no pain yesterday and very little cramping today. The bleeding is red, not dark brown.I just hope these are my fibroids and excess lining finding their way out of my body! :)
Apologies if I have written too many times.
Warmly
Feb 13, 2012
 Thank you
by: Anonymous

I just wanted to give you a big hug and thank you. I really appreciate the time you make to answer all the questions and soothe all fears and doubts. God bless you Wray :). I will hang in there and keep using the cream. Many thanks once again for sharing your knowledge and helping so many of us with such warmth and compassion.
Feb 14, 2012
 Thank you
by: Wray

Hi there Bless you for the kind words! It gives me great joy if I can help someone. The early days/weeks are so bumpy though! I just wish it were possible to smooth them out. When I look back on my early days, I cannot believe how unaffected I was compared to all the trials some have. Although I must admit I was so ignorant then, and had no one to turn to, that I could have had bad symptoms. But then the symptoms I already had were so bad, I would not have known the difference! All I knew and loved was my hot flushes had gone, that kept me going through the coming weeks. In fact it took 6 months for all symptoms to go, but then I was using the low amount still recommended. I've since learnt from experience and helping others there's no need to suffer for so long, hence my advice to use a high amount. The clots are a good sign, all the signs you've given me are good. Clots are not 'fresh' blood, and yet not old, when it oxidises and turns brown. Bleeding should be bright red, and flow freely, no clotting. So hopefully your next period will show signs of this. I'm delighted you had no pain, another good sign. I can never tell how long the clean out process will take, so please do let me know. Take care Wray
Feb 26, 2012
 Update
by: Anonymous

Hello Wray,
Hope you are doing brilliantly :) . I wanted to update you on my progress :). I had the bleeding that I write to you about. My bleeding finished in about 4 days. Since then I have been clean. I have been using a teaspoon and a little more everyday. My breasts are not sore at all. The only odd bit is that I wake up at some point around 5 am for a few minutes and then go right back to sleep :). I am looking forward to my next period and updating you on my progress. I hope that the cream combined with all the other supplements and diet is helping with my fibroids as well. I will keep you posted. Once again I want to thank you for all the caring and support . It has helped me more than you can imagine. God bless you!!
Love
Feb 27, 2012
 Update
by: Wray

Hi there Yes all is well thanks! I'm so delighted the symptoms seem to be easing or going. Fibroids are such a difficult problem, it makes me happy me to know you are finding relief from them. Bless you for the kind words! I can only give advice, you're doing all the hard work! Your feedback is so helpful too, as others can see there is a light at the end of what to many is a very long, dark tunnel. Love Wray
Mar 05, 2012
 Hello Wray
by: Anonymous

Hello Wray,
Hope you are doing wonderfully. I wanted your advice please. I just got my ultrasound repeated and I felt a little low about the radiologist's attitude. She advised me to go on HRT (which I will NOT do) and get surgery (sighhh). When I asked her if she is aware of the cause of my fibroids and cysts and of estrogen dominance her reply was negative. Then how on earth can they send people down the road to more trouble? I bless you every day Wray. I have 4 fibroids-33x26x29mm-vol 13.3cc(Intramural),32x23x31 mm vol 12.7 cc(Intramural),52x54x56 vol 84.8 cc(subserosal), 39x36x41 vol 31.5 (subserosal). She said I should get my left Ovary removed. Both my ovaries are adherent to the uterus but both are working. She could see follicles. Right ovary is enlarged and has a cyst 20x15x18 mm vol 3.0 with a follicle within it. Left Ovary enlarged with 3 cysts 31x32x30 vol 16.1 cc, 40x28x3.5 vol 0f 21.5 ,24x27x37 vol 13.5( cysts with echoes). ALso tubular cystic lesion adjacent to lefft ovary 42 mm length, likely to be left sided hydrosalpinx. Sorry to bore you with all this but she said that my left ovary cannot be saved. I read that Progesterone helps ovarian cysts and breast cysts. I have both. Maybe mine have not dissolved till now because my vit D levels are low and I have been on progesterone for only 4-5 weeks. But I am sure it can help. Can i please bother you for your opinion?
I have not got my periods as yet, though i bled twice last month. First on the 1st of Feb and then again from the 12th till the 15th as I wrote to you. I have had no breast tenderness, just very very mild itchy feeling occasionally.I am feeling a little bloated and with some pressure on my uterus like my periods should come any time.
Will keep you updated. Good luck to all the women out there and many many thanks and blessings to you.
Mar 06, 2012
 Hello Wray
by: Wray

Hi there That is such a typical attitude, why oh why do they send out such negative messages. The last thing a person needs when trying to heal. Progesterone can help, but it's also the antioxidants you need, particularly vitamin D. Have you managed to have a test yet? This is so important, as it gives an idea of how much you should be taking. I feel 20,000iu's per day would be good, with another test about 2-3 months later. You should try to get your level to round about 100ng/ml. Vitamin D does shrink fibroids, see here, here and here. Studies carried out on Traumatic Brain Injury victims found that adding vitamin D to the progesterone protocol, the benefits of progesterone were enhanced. Please have that test. If you can't have it done in India or it's too costly, Birmingham Hospital do test kits for £25 for overseas customers. One of the papers I've given you says that women who are obese or with higher melanin content in their skin, have a greater risk of fibroids. This should scream out to them that it's a lack of vitamin D, as melanin acts like a sunscreen, and obese people make vitamin D inefficiently. Plus it gets locked in fat cells. But no, no mention of it at all! So please have that test done, and continue as you are on the progesterone. It is early days yet as you say, they can take over 6 months to resolve. The body only has a certain capacity to absorb cells back into the blood stream. Take care Wray
Mar 08, 2012
 Many thanks
by: Anonymous

Big hug Wray!! Thank you so much for your reassuring words. I will get the Vitamin D test done tomorrow. It is easily done here. I should not worry about my periods I guess. Just be prepared for them to come when they will :) . Many many thanks once again for writing back. I cannot thank you enough for the hope you give women like me.
Mar 10, 2012
 Many thanks
by: Wray

Hi there Oh I'm so pleased you can get the test done there, there are so many countries where you can't. Do let me know what the result is, then I can guide you on the amount you should take to get your level up. And don't worry about your periods, let's get you well again before you do that! You say the kindest things! Take care Wray
Mar 13, 2012
 And here are the test results :)
by: Anonymous

Wray my dear,
Thank you once again for the time you take to answer all of us. I got a whole bunch of tests done and I am listing the results. The tests were done yesterday and they are all blood work. Unfortunately they do not do saliva tests here. From the 11th I have been spotting a few drops everyday and slightly bloated and uncomfortable but nothing else:). My last periods were on the 11th of Feb.
So here is the surprise in the result. My thyroid is still not working despite taking 25 mg thyronorm every morning since the 16th of November! In fact my TSH has gone up from 6.690 ( range 0.550-4.780) to 8.307!!! :) go figure!! And I had got tested for Thyroid antibodies in November and have none . T3 and T4 are normal.
The rest are as follows:
Progesterone 9.90 ng/ml
Range
Follicular 0.10-0.30
Luteal 1.20-15.90

Estradiol E2 91.76 pg/ml
Range
Early Follicular 20-150
Late Follicular 40-350
Mid Cycle 150-750
Luteal 30-450

Vitamin D 25 Hydroxy 40.20 nmol/L
Range - 25-74 Insufficient ( NO surprise there huh ?? :))

FSH 7.01 miu/ml
Follicular 2.50-10.20
Mid Cycle Peak 3.40-33.40
Luteal 1.50-9.10

LH 4.25 miu/ml
Follicular 1.90-12.50
Mid Cycle Peak 8.70-76.30
Luteal 0.50-16.90

And here is the happy part
Calcium serum 9.56 mg/dl
Range 8.60-10.20 :)

Phosporus Serum 4.11 mg/dl
Range 2.70-4.50 :)

Sooooo sorry to bombard you with all the information but I am so lost and I am sorry if I am hassling you loads.
Many many thanks and blessings and a BIG hug :)
Love
Mar 14, 2012
 And here are the test results :)
by: Wray

Hi there It's not a bother! We now have a page on Hormone Testing, as so many ask me about it. Your progesterone is still within the normal luteal phase range which is 5 to 20 ng/ml, I think a saliva test would show a different story. Your oestradiol is also normal, but your ratio of P:E2 is only 108:1. We've found from saliva tests we run that the ratio is best if it's 600:1 and over to feel well. Your vitamin D is so very low, as you say not surprising! It should be 175-250nmol/L. I suggest taking 20,000iu's per day for a month, then reduce to 10,000iu's for 2 more months, then have another test. The rest of the tests are all fine. As for the TSH, it might be high, but it's not a thyroid hormone, but it's one most doctors are hooked on. I call it a whip, produced by the pituitary to whip the thyroid into making T3 and T4! And you say both these are fine, so why worry, the thyroid is doing it's job! The thyroid is so complex, I can't remember if I gave you this site to look at, Stop the Thyroid Madness. It has much good advice. So please increase your vitamin D as quickly as you can, and possibly the progesterone too. Take care Wray
Mar 16, 2012
 Many many thanks
by: Anonymous

Wray, thank you so much for always writing back and taking the care to read through everything. I have increased my Vitamin D and taken the progesterone upto 2 tea spoons a day :)I got my periods as well and so far I have been blessed and am not bleeding profusely like I used to :)
Big big hug and love
Mar 16, 2012
 Thank you
by: Anonymous

I also want to share that I think this must be the first time in years that I have had periods which are normal and do not entail me changing my pad every hour or 2 hours and clots the size of Pluto!!! :) No pain, and no nausea and only one clot. I can lead a normal life :) God bless you Wray :)
Love love
Mar 18, 2012
 Many many thanks
by: ray

Hi there Bless you for telling me this! It gives me great joy to know you are at last coming right. Thank for trusting me, and following through with my suggestions. Difficult I know, as I go against all the normal recommendations. Please keep taking the NAC too, it's wonderful for heavy bleeding, plus it's a potent antioxidant, wonderful for ageing too, here, here and here. I take it daily, about 2000mg/day. Please keep in touch, I would love to know how the higher vitamin D helps you. Take care and love to you too! Wray
Mar 27, 2012
 Quick question
by: Anonymous

Hello hello dearest Wray :)
Just a quick question- the breast tenderness has returned. I am continuing on my normal course. Is this normal?? DO i need to do anything?? Taking the Vitamin D as suggested by you :) and of course the Nat pro.
Big big hug and lots of love
Mar 30, 2012
 Quick question
by: Wray

Hi there Ah, this is sent to try you, and me too! I wish it was a smooth course, with no ups and downs. I can't remember if I asked you to try iodine for this? It could be caused by a surge of oestrogen, impossible to tell, prolactin also causes it too. I have just finished a page on Breast Tenderness, please look through it, you might pick up some clues. Love and hugs, take care Wray
Apr 01, 2012
 Many thanks
by: Anonymous

Big hug Wray and many tahnsk. I am pretty sure it is Oestrogen for the following reasons- My breasts are also a little bigger (!!!), the cyst in my breast which I could feel was becoming smaller is now back to it's orginal size, and I got 2 tiny pimples on the side of my nose :). These seem to be my regular size. The prolactin seems to be ok because i tried squeezing to see if I was getting any discharge and got none! So onward and onward I guess, I am just going to keep using the Natpro and I am sure I will be right as rain soon. :) Thank you for always writing back. I just wanted to know if it is normal to have ups and downs before it all stabilises.
lots of love
Apr 02, 2012
 More symptoms
by: Anonymous

Oh and I also forgot to mentioned that my feet are swollen as well :) .Apologies for the typos in the earlier mail
Hugs
Apr 02, 2012
 Many thanks
by: Wray

Hi there Unfortunately there are so many ups and downs. And further down the road too, stress can drop progesterone levels, and added stress (we all have to much as it is!) can come out of the blue. Even good stress drops levels, ie a celebration. Plus of course a surge of oestrogen, you are still producing that! So each time you notice symptoms returning use a bit more till they calm down, then reduce again slowly. I've just had added stress, so used 800-1000mg/day! It really helped, plus I lost a lot of water I was retaining. Love to you too, take care Wray
Apr 02, 2012
 Thank you Wray
by: Anonymous

:) So i have done exactly that. Upped my progesterone and hope to tell you very soon that I am all good again. :) Hope all your stress goes away in a hurry. Big hug and lots of love
Apr 05, 2012
 Voila!!!!
by: Anonymous

And the magic of Wray and Natpro works again :) My swelling is gone as are the tender swollen breasts. :) The cysts are obviously there but I am sure they will go. I spotted some brown bits today but nothing major. I had my last periods on the 15th and am not due right now. I am sure they will now come later. I will slowly reduce the amount of Progesterone now. Thank you thank you so very much. Just wanted to share the good news :)
Love and hugs
Apr 06, 2012
 Voila!!!!
by: Wray

Hi there I'm so delighted! Bless you for trusting me! Love and hugs to you too! Take care Wray
Apr 08, 2012
 Thank you for the guidance
by: Anonymous

Wray my dear,
I often wonder if this is asking for too much and putting a load on you. I feel guilty that I ask you so many questions but unfortunately there is no one else to turn to. If you ever feel this is too much correspondence please do let me know.
I have started my periods today. I used to have a 28-30 day cycle. So they have come 5-7 days early. I guess it could be the progesterone as well. I am really hoping that they get balanced and normalised soon. I just want to know if this is a normal part of the process. I try to remain positive but just sometimes i get scared :)
Many many thanks and blessings and hugs again for all the love warmth and support you have given me . You are such a special person. :)
Lots of love
Apr 08, 2012
 Thank you for the guidance
by: Wray

Hi there Please don't be scared! Remember you have only been on this journey for 3 months, it's very early days yet. Getting your progesterone level up, and your vitamin D is critical to healing. Fibroids and cysts do take time to be absorbed back into the body, it can't be an overnight thing, unless you have an op! You're doing all the right things with the supplements and food, detoxing too. So please have patience and know you will come right. Don't forget you are also 41, heading to peri-menopause, maybe in it. One way of checking this, is asking your mother when she went into menopause. It tends to follow we go into menopause round about the same time as our mother's did. P-M starts 5 to 10 years before menopause. Mine seemed to start about 10 years before, when I was 41! But it could have been the added stress I had then, that does cause problems. There is one other supplement you could consider taking and that's N-acetyl cysteine. It's a most potent antioxidant, it should help the fibroids and cysts which are caused by oxidative stress, although I don't have any papers on it. I will have to look! NAC certainly helps endometriosis, another inflammatory disorder in the uterus, see here. I take about 2000mg/day because of it's healing and protective properties. It's so good for healthy skin, hair and nails too, certainly keeps the skin strong. And it helps ageing too, see here, here and here. Finally I don't mind how many times you write in!! Love and hugs to you too, take care Wray
Apr 13, 2012
 Hugs and thanks
by: Anonymous

Many many thanks Wray :) I have no way of knowing when my mother went into menopause as she is no longer with us . But your words give me hope and strength and I am smiling as I write to you. Once again thank you for always being there. You are a blessing!
I am already taking NAC and just received my next batch of Natpro yesterday :) I look forward to being healthy for a long time :)
Lots of love
Apr 16, 2012
 Hugs and thanks
by: Wray

Hi there I'm sorry to hear this. But hope that all you're doing will finally bring relief. And don't forget the vitamin D! Lots of love to you too! Take care Wray
Apr 23, 2012
 Hello hello
by: Anonymous

Wray my dear, how are you doing?? I am just back from a trip to Italy. Stressful hectic work trip with cold gloomy rainy days :) But Italy is always beautiful. I got my periods within 8 days of having finished my last cycle. I got them 5 days early on my last cycle too!!! I think it is low progesterone as I had got swollen feet and tender breasts too till i upped my natpro dose. I have upped my dose to 300-400 per day ( i think- I am using 21/2 tea spoons :)). The periods are not painful and with no clotting . Just bright red blood. The bleeding has been a little heavier yesterday and this morning ( day 3& 4). I am taking vit d and NAC and Vit e, borage oil, primrose oil, flax seed oil, pau d arco, milk thistle, dandelion, DIM and Chaste berry. :) Am i doing the right thing by increasing the dose of Natpro? I checked with my mom's sister about her menopause date and she hit menopause around 50-52. I am very keen to have a baby. Do you think I can still try?? Do i have any hope?? Even with cysts in my ovaries (but they are producing follicles ;)).
Many many thanks for always listening and responding. God bless you in shower loads!! Lots of love and hugs
Apr 23, 2012
 Forgot
by: Anonymous

Also, I had random bruising out of no where which leads me to think this may all be excess estrogen which my body may be flushing out through the periods which have come too early!! :)
Or could it also be my fibroids which are also causing this bleeding?? However I must add that Natpro seems to be helping with them HUGELY!! I have had the BEST periods after the longest time in my life :)
And the libido is back :)
Lots of love
Apr 23, 2012
 Hello hello
by: Wray

Hi there So pleased the Italy trip was successful, yes it is a beautiful country. Walked my soles off in Rome! The early period, was it while you were travelling, while in Italy, or on arriving back home? Any one of these could account for it. Travelling is very stressful, whether it's done for fun or business. Did I ever give you this link here? I'm delighted the bleeding and pain have stopped, now we just have to get those periods normal again. Please avoid stress, how can I say that when none of us can. But it does have a huge bearing on healing. Have you had a vitamin D test done to check your level again. I know you were taking enough, but best to see if it's being absorbed. Plus you will need more than most because of the fibroids. Stress drops levels of that too. And the NAC, are you taking about 2000mg/day or more? Agnus castus has been used for many centuries for problems which women suffer from, PMS, mastalgia, menstrual irregularities, fibrocystic breasts, increasing lactation and more, see here. In days gone by it was used by monks to reduce sexual desire, hence it's name 'chasteberry'. It can also reduce prolactin levels, which in turn can cause sore breasts, see here, and luteal phase dysfunction, with subsequent problems in embryo implantation, see here. But because it has a mild oestrogenic action, levels of 17 beta-oestradiol can increase. One study found mild ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome occurred in the luteal phase, see here. If prolactin levels are high both progesterone and the amino acid tyrosine are very affective at suppressing it. Odd you should have the bruising, as you are using so much progesterone, plus the NAC and vitamin D. I had that badly, bruised like a peach before finding progesterone! I can only assume as you say, it was because levels of these had dropped and oestrogen has increased. Things do seem to be turning around, and you say you're ovulating, so there's no reason you shouldn't conceive. If the fibroids can be reduced then there's a chance implantation will be successful too. And you feel they are being helped…….so!!! Did I give you our page on Pregnancy and this one here too. So, so delighted the libido is back, things really are looking up! Take care Wray
Apr 24, 2012
 Big hug and many thanks
by: Anonymous

Wray dearest thank you so much as always. I have stopped taking Vitex promptly :) I am sure that I will be just fine with the progesterone. The bleeding has also reduced. The bleeding came 8 days after my last periods finished. It came while I was in Italy. By the way, I saw the Last Supper and all of Da vinci's folios and i cannot begin to describe the sheer genius and beauty :). I also love churches so Duomo brought me great joy and such peace.
Just wanted to share the happy parts of my life too :)
I will have my Vit D levels tested next month after I have been on it for sufficient time for it to work. I am taking NAC everyday :)
Now i just want the ovarian cysts and the salpinx I have in one fallopian tube to disappear. I can feel my breast cysts reducing :) yay!!!
Thank you thank you for always being such a warm loving and positive voice. You make the world a better place
Love love
Apr 24, 2012
 Big hug and many thanks
by: Wray

Hi there Bless you as always for saying such lovely things! And for sharing the happy parts too! I never got as far as Milan, so unfortunately didn't see the Last Supper, but did suffer the crowds of the Sistine to see Michelangelo's ceiling. That was an experience, so were the crowds! Not at my best in them. I must confess Da Vinci is my favourite of the two, his imagination, his vision, most extraordinary. We did wander through many churches too, so old, full of mystery and peace. We got as far as those in Sienna and Assisi too. My most memorable experience was in the Orthodox St Catherine's monastery in Sinai. Reputed to be the oldest church, built it's believed in the 6th century. There the sheer age, the thousands of people to pass through it's doors, the prayers, candles and incense offered over the centuries, stopped me in my tracks. There was such a strong tangible presence of spirit there, most remarkable, I can still feel it. Back to reality! I'm pleased the bleeding has reduced, but I'm sure it was the travelling. So delighted the breast cysts are reducing too, I was puzzled why they hadn't long ago, but then realised what seems years of chatting to you is barely 4 months! Let me know the D test results when you have it. Love to you too, take care Wray
Apr 27, 2012
 :)
by: Anonymous

Wray dearest your trip also sounds so wonderful. I am so keen to go to Rome and Venice. And Da Vinci is by far my favourite. I think he is the most amazing combination of the left and the right brain. If I could ever be another person for a day I would want to be him :)
I will keep you posted on all kinds of developments. Much much love and a big hug to you
May 09, 2012
 :( And they have come again
by: Anonymous

Wray dearest,

Hope you are doing brilliantly. I am so so sorry to bother you but I have just started my periods again!!! I had them on the 7th of April and this would have been the right time except that during my trip to Italy I got them again on the 21st and i only cleaned up totally by the 27th of April. I have been using natpro regularly 200 mg everyday. Do you know what could be wrong? could it be my fibroids? And I do have a lot of work stress at the moment.
I am really scared :(. My pap smear which i got done last May was absolutely clear too.
Lots of love
May 10, 2012
 :( And they have come again
by: Wray

Hi there Please don't be scared! Interestingly, if you hadn't had the period in Italy, ie on the 21st, this period is on time, ie about a month from the 7th of April. So the 'stress' period when travelling could have been a one off thing, which has upset your cycle. We'll only know if it settles down when your next period comes round. Or the stress of travelling has upset your cycle completely and it needs longer to settle. You might like to read Annie's comments here. Both times she travelled her periods became totally erratic. As you'll see she becomes even more stressed than would normally be expected. So pleased don't be scared! Love and hugs, take care Wray
May 10, 2012
 Update
by: Anonymous

SO i decided not to let it get me down :) And I have to thank you again. You know the spotting and the bleeding is a surprise to me also because it is not accompanied by any cramps or breast tenderness..just huge hunger pangs and sweet craving!!!! :)Thank you for taking away the pain and discomfort. Now i wish I could stop bleeding every ten and have a baby and life would be perfect :)

DO you think progesterone will dissolve all the cysts I have in my ovaries??? She was not sure if they were chocolate cysts but I just want them to go :)
Many thanks for listening to the ranting with such patience. God bless you with abundance of all the good things
Lots of love
May 11, 2012
 Many many thanks for your response
by: Anonymous

You have no idea what a HUGE blessing you are Wray. Your knowledge and warmth are so incredible. I had emailed saying I will not get depressed and so I am smiling :) I am sure I will be just fine. Big hug and lots of love
May 11, 2012
 Many many thanks for your response
by: Wray

Hi there I see you posted one on the same day I answered yours, and then you answered mine! So I'm answering the two in one. I'm happy you decided not to let it get you down, as that only adds stress to the body, and we're working at getting rid of that! It doesn't surprise me you, or others, get so worried. We always assume things should run smoothly, but it seems our innards are as temperamental as our lives. I do wonder what it was like hundreds of years ago, I mean thousands really. We all know what the Greeks thought of 'hysterical' women having coined the term! But when we were living free, in the open, with none of the all consuming worries we have now. Yes we might have had a tiger or two to contend with! But looking at existing hunter/gatherers their health is so very different to ours. Dr Cordain is so interesting about this, having studied them extensively, there's a link to his website on our Nutrition page. I do know our monthly cycles have changed dramatically in the past 200 odd years, we have our fascination with tools to thank for that. Becoming ever more complex, meaning we spend more time indoors, humans were never meant to live like that. I have done a page on Menstruation which shows the changes which have taken place. One wonders where it will finally lead. Chocolate cysts, sometimes called endometrial cysts, are found in women who have Endometriosis. They occur when a piece of endometrial tissue breaks off from the endometrium and lodges in an ovary. As this is influenced by the surge of oestrogen in the first half of the cycle, it continues to grow no matter where it is. But you have a fibroid, not endo. The progesterone, the vitamin D and the cysteine you're taking are all helping, how long is always the question we want answered the most, but it's anyone's guess! So don't worry, it helps no one least of all you. And if you feel like doing something which I know will help the worry, please look into EFT. There seems to be one practitioner in India, I find it a remarkable therapy. Who knows it could get rid of the fibroid and the cysts, it's cured people of many physical symptoms, plus worry! So give yourself a big love and hug and buy some flowers for yourself, I did the other day! And from me big hugs and loves, take care Wray
May 11, 2012
 Thank you as always
by: Anonymous

I just love talking to you!! :) I specially loved the reference to the Greeks as Greek mythology and literature is one of my favorite subjects!
My periods have been very light this time- Very mild bleeding. But no pain and no clotting.Yesterday was day 2 which is normally the heaviest but I made it through using only 3 normal pads.
Thank you so so much as usual for being the fountain of love and warmth and wisdom. I will try and connect with the EFT practitioner as well.
Lots and lots of love and hugs
May 12, 2012
 Thank you as always
by: Wray

Hi there Bless you, I so enjoy our 'chats' too! I love Greek mythology, my mother had a wonderful selection of books when I was little, and I would read them all, over and over. When older the Oddesey and the Iliad and a few others too. I haven't read any of them for years, just medical studies now! Mythology in general fascinates me, particularly those with origins in many countries, but all so similar you feel there has to be some truth to them, some connection. So pleased the period has been light and no pain either, let's hope the next one is the same, and comes in a month or so! Would be so interested how you get on with EFT, such a fascinating therapy. I often tap myself if I need calming down! Take care Wray
May 25, 2012
 Update
by: Anonymous

Hello Wray dearest,
I write to you from a land of sweltering heat. The temperature had touched 44 degrees celsius yesterday!!! So I am quite roasted and toasted :)
I got all my tests repeated and thought I would give you all the results. I got the tests done on the 24th of May 2012. I had started my periods on the 9th of May . Thanks to you they were the most normal periods I have had in years!! NO clotting and NO pain!! NONE at all!!! And normal flow. I spotted for a long time- till the 18th of May- just a drop or two or three a day ;)
So here goes
1.Testosterone total, Serum 40.22 ng/dl
Ref range-14-76

2. Progesterone Serum 3.50 ng/ml
Ref range
Follicular 0.10-0.30
Luteal 1.20-15.90
3. Cortisol Serum Morning sample 22.88 ug/dl
Ref Range 4.20-22.40 (This is a little high)
4. Estradiol E2 202.45 pg/ml
Range
Follicular 19.5- 144.2

Mid Cycle 63.9- 356.7
Luteal 55.8- 214.2

5. Insulin (CMIA) – 4.20 uIU/ml

Ref Range 2.00- 25.00



6. DHEA-S 81.50 ug/dl

Ref Range – 74.80- 410.20
7. Vitamin B12 ( CLIA) 566.00 pg/ml

Ref Range - 211.00 --- 911.00


8. FSH – 3.04 mIU/ml


Follicular 2.50-10.20
Mid Cycle Peak 3.40-33.40
Luteal 1.50-9.1


9. Vit D 25 Hydroxy Serum – 154 nmol/L

Sufficient 75- 250 ( Look who is getting better thanks to you Wray!!!!   )
As usual the T3 & T4 are normal while the TSH is still high 7.830 (range 0.350-4.940)
Which I am ignoring :)

The only bummer for me is that my libido seems to be non existent :(
How are you doing?? I just finished reading a delightful book. It is written by an author called Pico Iyer. He admired Graham Greene for many years and he introspects in this book about his relationship with Greene (whom he never met but considered his authorial father figure) and his own father who was very learned scholar; the contrast between San Francisco (where his parents lived and taught) and the very orthodox British boarding school he went to, and a myriad other relationships.

Love love
May 26, 2012
 Update
by: Wray

Hi there I'm so happy about the 'normal' periods, no pain and no clotting! But you did all the hard work, I only suggested things I thought could help. Your tests all look good, the cortisol is actually just within range according to Medline. Their range is 6 - 23 ug/dL. You could always take zinc which lowers levels, see here and here. I'm pleased they did a serum test for progesterone and not saliva. This normally shows a much higher level, so doctors then freak out! Your FSH is nice and low. Although you said you're in or nearing peri-menopause, this would be increasing gradually due to the increasing anovulatory cycles which increase in frequency. By menopause levels vary between 40-250 IU/L. We do have a page on Hormone Testing now, so you can check your levels. Your vitamin D is coming up nicely too! So don't reduce the dose you're taking, better if it gets even higher. Mine is now 230nmol/L. Excellent news your T4 and T3 are normal , so I'm pleased you're ignoring the TSH! I tend to look at our organs and glands as little beings, all doing our bidding. I can see your pituitary falling asleep, suddenly waking and saying omg, where am I, got to get to work. So it pedals furiously making TSH. Meanwhile the thyroid saying we're doing fine thank you, without your input! I notice they didn't check your prolactin, as this suppresses libido, because it suppresses dopamine, essential for a normal sexual response. Did I suggest taking tyrosine at any point, I can't remember. This is such an vital amino acid, it's the precursor to dopamine, and when stressed levels drop, this of course drops dopamine levels. If you're not taking it you could try some, we have more info on how to take it on our page Natural Antidepressants. Continued below.
May 26, 2012
 Update part 2
by: Wray

Hi there Amazing you should mention Graham Greene, as his brother was Dr Dalton's doctor. And it was he who gave her progesterone injections to cure her migraines! In her book 'Once a Month' she says….."In August 1948 I came across my first case of premenstrual asthma, I had found a further case of asthma, two of epilepsy, and two of migraines that all occurred just before menstruation. They also responded successfully to progesterone. Together with Dr. Raymond Greene (brother of author Graham Greene) I continued to find more cases of PMS, and in 1953 we published in the British Medical Journal the first paper in medical literature describing the many bodily premenstrual presentations, as well as tension, and gave it the name "premenstrual syndrome." The book sounds fascinating, the contrast between his two 'lives' would have been really great. The contrast in yours seems great too. Living in India and loving Italy! I would love to know where in India you live. My father spent many years there as a child, and my daughter has been, but I've only visited an airport when very young! Just watched the film 'The Most Exotic Marigold Hotel' and loved it. Would love to visit the Western Ghats where most of our spices originate. In one of my many 'lives' I grew a few commercially, plus many herbs. Take care and love to you too Wray
Jun 01, 2012
 :)
by: Anonymous

Wray my dear,
How lovely to know that you have been to my country. I stay in the capital city/union territory. It is in the North of the country and currently we are wilting under a HUGE heat wave. Temperatures are as high as 48 degrees Celsius!!! :)
I do hope you plan to visit us sometime. I would love to meet with you. I am planning to visit NY around the middle of June for a short break. I have extensive family and friends on the East as well as the West coast.
Thank you so much as usual for all the guidance, support and love. I am doing well and hope you are too. Will let you know if the libido reappears any time soon :)
Lots of love
Jun 02, 2012
 :)
by: Wray

Hi there Ah I would love to visit India 'again', I was very little last time! I've just remembered we did visit Ceylon as it was called then, even have a picture of me riding an elephant at age 2! Unfortunately I live no where near NY, I currently live in Cape Town, South Africa! I never bother to tell people, I suppose it never comes up, but I'm not American either, but English! And please let me know if the libido comes up, you are trying tyrosine aren't you? Just in case your dopamine is low. I watch the BBC News and have been thinking of you in that heat, appalling! Love to you too, take care Wray
Jun 03, 2012
 :)
by: Anonymous

SO I had visions of an "Out of Africa" like setting :)and an English woman instead of the American :). My mind tends to want to live in the books that I love and pull out scenes to match all situations!
I have heard that South Africa is beautiful and I do want to visit some time soon.
The time to visit India is October. The weather is great, there are festivals around the corner and the madness of summer is over. DO try and make a trip if you can :) I promise to get you another elephant ride!
I have ordered the tyrosine and will get the prolactin tested as well. Many many years ago I used to have high prolactin and I would actually get discharge if I squeezed my breasts. None of that is happening right now thank fully!!
Will tell you all about my NY trip. Lots of love and take care
Jun 04, 2012
 :)
by: Wray

Hi there I tend to visualise people and places too! Unfortunately CT is not 'Out of Africa', it is beautiful but not as beautiful as the African bush. I love the silence most of all, the bird song, and the changes noises too. From the dawn chorus, to the silence which descends as midday approaches, and then the night sounds as dusk approaches. All quite magical for me. I look forward to the elephant ride again! Very interesting you once had high prolactin, I'd be so interested to hear if the tyrosine helps you. And to hear how the NY trip goes, you certainly get about! Love and hugs, take care Wray
Jun 07, 2012
 :)
by: Anonymous

And aren't you extra popular these days ? :) went to order my Natpro supply and was told it is out of stock!!! Shock!! Gasp!!! Horror!! :)
Loads of love
Jun 07, 2012
 :)
by: Wray

Hi there You are so kind to put it like that! Stock outs always have me in a state, knowing how much I rely on progesterone. Luckily this one is I hope short lived, stock is coming in to the fulfilment house, but going out again as soon as it does. People are finding the site, and we do try to keep up, but sometimes difficult! Please keep checking or send an email asking to be notified when it comes in. Love to you too! Take care Wray
Jun 12, 2012
 :)
by: Anonymous

Wray my dear,
Do you know that every time I write to you I am normally smiling? :) That is the kind of positive energy you have!
I have ordered my stock of Natpro yay! :) I am all set now. I just wanted to share with you that I got my periods on the 10th...which is great because I had gt them on the 9th last month. And they are painless again, yay!! The only thing is that the flow is almost negligible. I have used a single pad on most days except one where I used 2 pads. When I first started it has spotted brown and then some fresh blood. But I am almost over and done with now. Should I increase my Natpro or should I try and go on a cycle now??
As usual many many thanks for listening and for all your help and warmth.
On a totally different note- reading a book that you might enjoy given our common interests- Madeline Miller- The Song of Achilles. It is a book about Achilles and Patroclus's relationship :)
Lots of love
Jun 13, 2012
 :)
by: Wray

Hi there Bless you, you make my heart glad saying that! We are here to love and help each other, in the good times and the bad. So pleased you managed to order the cream, I get heart failure when we're out of stock! I'm so delighted your cycle is now pain free and definitely seems to be settling down. Why not try following your cycle, now that you have one. You'll know soon enough if it's too early to do so. If the amount of progesterone you're using is helping, please stick to that, I see no point in increasing it, besides it'll cost you more! The book sounds fascinating, I just wish I had time to read books, but it's a rare thing now for me to do so. Spend so much time reading stuff on the web, or writing new pages for our site. One day I will be living under a palm tree with all the time in the world, so I can indulge! Take care and loves Wray
Jun 13, 2012
 Thank you thank you
by: Anonymous

Thank you so much for writing back Wray. So I will try a cycle now. I was just concerned about the amount I bled.It seemed a little less. Is this normal? I am so used to the excessive bleeding I used to have earlier that I have forgotten what normal is!!! :) My periods seem to have ended today.
I am off to NYC most likely on Saturday with my supply of Natpro , YAY!!!!
Big hug and lots of love
Jun 14, 2012
 Thank you thank you
by: Wray

Hi there You did mention the bleeding was less, but I didn't pick up on this as being unusual. My error as I'd forgotten you had heavy bleeding. Which I should have remembered, considering you had fibroids, apologies! All I can say is I'm delighted it's slowed down, it should have done. I can't remember if I gave you the page on Menstruation which explains the MMPs and their involvement in the bleeding. Plus you're taking, or were taking NAC which also slows heavy bleeding. Last time you travelled your period came early, please make sure you never miss using the progesterone, and it might be an idea to increase it while away. And to continue taking the NAC too, or increase that. Please keep a watch for adverse symptoms, and apply more cream! Have fun! Love and hugs Wray
Jul 11, 2012
 Hello hello
by: Anonymous

Wary dearest,
How are things with you? I wanted to let you know that my trip to America was wonderfully uneventful with no break through bleeding at all thanks to you and Nat pro. Now I am just waiting for my periods which came last month on the 10th so should be visiting me any time soon...i have all the symptoms- heavy tender breasts ( since the last 2 days) etc. As advised by you after this cycle I will try and go on a cycle of Nat pro instead of everyday.
What has been happening in your life?
The monsoons are finally here and I am loving it despite all the hectic madness at work.
Lots of love
Jul 12, 2012
 Hello hello
by: Wray

Hi there I'm so delighted nothing untoward happened! I was not happy about you going to NY, knowing what occurred after your Italy trip, but it really seems things are settling down. Particularly as you have all the signs your period is imminent. Do let me know how you get on with following your cycle. You know only too well what symptoms to watch for should your oestrogen rise too sharply. If this should happen I suggest using a small amount of progesterone to see if it helps get through the follicular phase. 100mg and over if used from about 5-8 days before ovulation can stop it. So try not to go that high if you do supplement. And my life, I'm moving house, yet again! Out of the city to a small village which I'm more suited to. I have been following your weather, and had noted the monsoons had arrived. Bringing with it the usual floods! At least those awful temps have come down a bit, but still hot in most peoples books! Love to you too, take care Wray
Aug 30, 2012
 Coffee and fibroids
by: Lakshmy Shankar

Hey Wray,
I have been having a huge fibroid for almost 6 years now. just want to know if coffee, white rice, barley has any effect on the growth of fibroids
Aug 31, 2012
 Hello
by: Anonymous

Wray dearest,
How was your move? All settled in and happy in the sylvan surroundings? A small town or village is always more peaceful :)
I have been well..my TSH has been rising higher and higher and I was feeling fatigued all the time. Went to the endocrinologist who has now raised it to 75 mg a day. The periods have been either late or then come back after 15 days...that happened only once. Now I am due on the 5th and let's see..i spotted a teeny teeny bit after making love last night..but that could just be the periods..or maybe the fibroids. Getting an ultra sound to check on them :)
Natpro has just arrived and it made me think of you :) Big hug and many blessings always
Love
Sep 02, 2012
 Hello
by: Wray

Hi there Good to hear from you again! Not quite settled in yet, still another month to go. But I have been house sitting for a friend in the same village, out on a small farm. But what with the 3 dogs, 1 cat, 2 geese, and 2 sheep, I'm exhausted! The sheep always managed to ambush me at the gate, and come rushing in before I had time to close it. So I had to go chasing after them round the garden and try to get them out. Once they followed the dogs into the house! You have no idea how large a sheep is once it's amongst furniture. They sent some books flying skidding on the wooden floor, but I managed to get them out. Then we had a terrible storm, which blew off the veranda roof, and part of the house roof too! Awful ripping, tearing sound as it came off, found it scattered all over the garden the next day, and up the hill too. Damaged another house on the property as it flew about, fun and games, but I survived and enjoyed the stay very much. Sorry to hear your TSH has gone up, puzzled too. I take it this means your T3 and T4 have gone down? Do hope it rights itself soon. Let me know how you get on. Take care Wray
Sep 02, 2012
 Coffee and fibroids
by: Wray

Hi Lakshmy I've no particular knowledge that any of them might. Brown rice is of course preferable to white. But we do have a page on Fibroids you could look through. They are caused by oxidative stress, progesterone can help, but large amounts of antioxidants are needed too. Vitamin D is most important, as studies have found it does shrink them, see here, here, here and here. It's not a quick fix, and some find the very large fibroids barely respond to natural treatments, and opt to have them out. Take care Wray
Sep 25, 2012
 Adventures!
by: Anonymous

Wray my dear,
What adventures ! I was laughing while reading your mail but it sounds like a LOT of hard work. I do hope that the house is now in order and the sheep are behaving ;)
I wanted to thank you and give you a BIG hug...i had an ultrasound done and though the doc pooh pooed..my fibroids have reduced in size!!! A little..but who cares..it is a process :). ANd a cyst has disappeared from the ovary altogether!! yay!! God bless you loads and loads my dear Wray.
Have to get my blood work done again for the Thyroid. And he has asked for Prolactin though I have no milky discharge. Now lets see...sighh..the only downfall has been the hair falling out in clumps!! :(
Anyway, my main reason to write was to talk about your adventures and to give you a BIG hug and say a million thanks
Love
Sep 26, 2012
 Adventures!
by: Wray

Hi there Yes I can only look back and laugh!!! It was quite funny at the time too. I went to visit them last weekend and it was all looking much better. But can you believe it the sheep ambushed me again! And I had two others in the truck who I failed to ask for help. So there we were, all five of us chasing sheep around the veranda and the garden! I'm so thrilled your fibroids are finally responding, I thought it would take time, you have been so patient. And a cyst gone, it really is such good news to me! I have to thank you for trying all the suggestions I made, it takes some courage to go against a doctors advice. But in the end it does pay. I'm puzzled about the hair though, could be a thyroid issue of course. I think I gave you the page we have on Hair Loss, there are nutrients which help. This info here might help too. Hugs to you too! Take care Wray
Dec 26, 2012
 hello :)
by: Anonymous

Wray dearest,
I just wanted to wish you and your loved ones a very merry Christmas and a wonderful year ahead.
Lots of love
Dec 27, 2012
 hello :)
by: Wray

Hi there Bless you for thinking of me! I hope your Christmas was blessed and very merry too. I also hope 2013 is a less bumpy ride for all of us! Take care Wray

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