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Overdue period

by Veronica
(Australia)

I've been using Natpro for over 6 months now (400mg per day - I'm under extreme long-term stress due to personal circumstances which, I'm sure, make matters worse) and I've noticed several symptoms disappear in that time e.g. hot flushes, tender breasts, menstrual pain. However, I still struggle greatly with body inflammation, tender joints, neck/shoulder/back injuries which affect quality of sleep, and crucially I feel like I've aged 30 years in the past couple of years. I walk and hobble around like an 80 year old, and I'm only 46 (and I haven't even mentioned how I look!).

Last month, I was two days late using the Natpro during my luteal phase and then I ran out of cream about a week in (because of the stock out). My menstrual cycle should have begun 7 days ago, but I still have no period.

Natpro arrived yesterday so I began with 200mg last night, and another 200mg this morning.

Is my late period due to not using cream throughout luteal phase?

Do I continue using cream? Not sure what to do now.

I'm not sleeping well, so I'm not thinking straight. I appreciate your help.

I was taking a little magnesium threonate in the morning (144mg) and 50mg magnesium glycinate before bed, but it affected my bowels, so I didn't know what to do and I seem to have stopped taking any magnesium. But I'll start with glycinate again.

I'm not taking d3 or K, but having read other comments, I will start. Any advice on dosage would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

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Aug 10, 2024
 quick update
by: Veronica

Just an update since I wrote the post above: I have my period now (day 33), so I know to stop using Natpro, but an additional question would be what day to start using Natpro again? I usually have a 26 cycle, so I know when to begin Natpro according to your instructions on this website, but a 33-day cycle would mean starting on day 19 - do I go by my usual cycle, or my latest one?

Thank you for clarifying.
Aug 10, 2024
 Overdue Period
by: Joy

Hi Veronica

I am sorry to hear that you are dealing with a lot of Stress, it really does affect so many things.  It can also age a person.  Stress destroys progesterone levels as well as vital nutrients, more need to be taken during these stressful times.  As you have most probably read, a Vitamin D3 deficiency will reduce the benefits of progesterone.  I suspect your D3 is low. So, together with stress and a D3 deficiency, you really are not getting the full benefits of the 400mg amount that you are using. When taking D3 it is vital to take the co-factors. Magnesium and K2 being the most important ones but please do not neglect zinc. The protocol will make a huge difference.  The little break that you took with Natpro would have also affected things and allowed estrogen to become dominant again. 

It's clear that you are still suffering from Estrogen Dominance hence your adverse symptoms. You are also in Peri-Menopause, a torrid time for most women.  It is also a time when progesterone should be used every day with no breaks unless you are still wanting to conceive.  The monthly cycle usually becomes extremely erratic. I suggest that you increase to 500 or 600mg for a while to get your progesterone level back up, then you can slowly reduce back down again.  Experiment, see what works for you best.  I suggest that you use Natpro every day with no breaks going forward, you will need it.  Your menstrual cycle will be a little messed up but things will revert to normal when the body is ready.  Also bear in mind that no amount of progesterone will help irregular periods when in peri-menopause.  Progesterone will of course help ease things and will help to prepare you for Menopause.  

Your adrenals could also be taking strain which will affect cortisol levels and cause sleep issues.   Please consider taking the following adrenal fatigue cocktail:

125ml Orange Juice for the vitamin C
1/4 teaspoon Celtic Sea Salt or pink Himalayan for the sodium
1/4 teaspoon Cream of Tartar for the potassium

I hope you get back on track soon.

Take care.
Aug 10, 2024
 Quick Update
by: Joy

Hi Veronica

Please refer to my post above. Use everyday going forward unless you want to conceive. In which case, use every day until your cycle returns to normal. Once this happens use Natpro during you luteal phase. Again, bear in mind that your monthly cycle will start to become erratic now due to peri-menopause.
Aug 20, 2024
 Magnesium?
by: Veronica

Thank you Joy. Could you explain this statement you made please: "It is also a time when progesterone should be used every day with no breaks unless you are still wanting to conceive"

I thought if periods were regular (which mine have been till this recent incident) that Natpro was only to be used during luteal phase?

I know I'm definitely peri menopause, yet my periods are quite regular.

Thank you so much for getting back to me. I've now started to take 8000IU D3 coupled with 200 K2 (it's a D3+K2 tablet) daily. I've swapped mag threonate for mag malate because of digestive discomfort, but my bowels still aren't normal. I can't seem to find a mag that doesn't mess with me. Any advice?
Aug 20, 2024
 Clarifying question
by: Veronica

Hi Joy again,

I've just reread your comment a few more times. Am I right in understanding that your recommendation of daily use of Natpro is because of the stress I am under - is that why you're suggesting to use daily going forward?

Thank you again. I really appreciate it.

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