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Non-Stop Bleeding-Almost Three Months

by Jeannie
(Grand Rapids, MI )

Hi Girls,

I am a 60 yr. old woman who has used hormone pellets for a long time.
All of a sudden I started bleeding .. and have been bleeding almost non-stop for three months.

I discovered that the progesterone I was using (vaginally) was not dissolving, consequently I'm sure I was not getting what I needed. Also, I do know that I have fibroids. Those could have grown during the time that my progesterone levels dropped. I'm about 90% sure that it's the fibroids that are causing my bleeding.

Fast forward to now, just this past weekend I finally picked up (from compounding pharmacy) a very dissolvable vaginal capsule. I have been inserting 400 mgs each night, beginning last Saturday. I am hoping the 400 mgs will take care of this issue, but, I'm wondering how long it might take? And what if the bleeding isn't effected by the progesterone, should I try to stop? (I am wondering if I am putting too much progesterone into my body, since I have been taking it in some way, shape or form constantly since January)

I would appreciate any feedback and thoughts about my situation.

Thank you,
Jeannie

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Mar 12, 2018
 Non-Stop Bleeding-Almost Three Months
by: Joy

Hi Jeannie

I am not in favour of pellets at all, they have caused problems for so many women, please read this: Nightmare with Pellets.

You are still bleeding indicating that are still in Peri-Menopause which can be a torrid time for most women but it need not be with the correct use of a good natural progesterone cream such as Natpro. Usually 200mg per day helps, but because you also have Fibroids you need at least 400mg per day, every day. Peri-Menopause also brings on erratic/heavy bleeding/clotting. A missed period for 12 months puts one in Menopause.

Fibroids are caused by oxidative stress and unless the inflammation is dealt with you will always battle. Large fibroids usually require surgery, if small, progesterone helps the body to absorb them back into the body.

A Vitamin D3 deficiency also reduces the benefits of progesterone, optimal range is between 70-100ng/mL.

Please this heavey bleeding/continual bleeding protocol for both your bleeding and your fibroids. It must be followed exactly as stated otherwise it will not work optimally.

HEAVY BLEEDING PROTOCOL
* 400-500mg Natpro Progesterone Cream per day
* 2000mg N-Acetyl-Cysteine (NAC) per day
* 2000mg Taurine per day
* 5000iu's Vitamin D3 per day
* 1000mg Bioflavanoids per day

It takes 2-6 months of the correct use of progesterone before benefits are felt. Progesterone should be used no less than twice a day.

Please read the following pages and the reference papers:

How to use Progesterone Cream

Estrogen Dominance

Peri-Menopause

Menopause

Fibroids
Mar 12, 2018
 Non-stop bleeding
by: Rachel

I don’t think progesterone will cause you any damage whatsoever, but I would see your doctor about the bleeding. Please don’t self-prescribe.

Regards,
Rachel
Mar 13, 2018
 Non-stop bleeding
by: Rachel

How can Jeannie be in peri menopause as a 60 year old woman? Sorry, but highly unlikely, surely!
Mar 13, 2018
 Bleeding
by: Anonymous

Hi Joy,

Thank you for your response.
Can you or anyone here possibly chime in as to what brands of these supplements you purchase?

On the bioflavanoids, would a high dose vitamin C work? I can tell you that I'm not familiar with bioflavanoids, so perhaps you can educate me on that?

I am currently on a weekly vitamin D. Do we know if that will be considered sufficient for what we're trying to accomplish here?

Also, I am currently using 400 mgs of progesterone, nightly/vaginally.

Thanks much for all of your help.

Jeannie
Mar 14, 2018
 Bleeding
by: Joy

Hi Jeannie

Rachel made a good point, at 60 you would be in Menopause. Perhaps the pellets caused the sudden bleeding or the fibroids. In Menopause bleeding can happen for a month or two but more than that then I suggest that you visit your doctor.

Bioflavanoids are high in vitamin C, more effective than vitamin C, they strengthen the capillaries. You can take Vitamin C but not as effective. I suggest taking 1,000mg, you may need to take more though.

Progesterone should be used non less than twice a day. Levels start to drop after 12/13 hours and the idea is to keep levels stable.

No less than 5,000ius of Vitamin D3 should be taking daily, more if one is deficient.
Mar 15, 2018
 Non-stop bleeding
by: Rachel

If I were you ask your doctor for a biopsy. Non stop bleeding should always be investigated.

I hope you are better soon.
Kindest regards, Rachel
Mar 22, 2018
 Multiple Fibroids
by: Jeannie

Happy Thursday Girls! Thanks for all of your replies to me .. thus far.

So .. I have been using, for the past two weeks or so, my 200 mgs capsules (400mgs daily) at 10 p.m.(right before bed) and again 10 a.m. It has helped (somewhat) in slowing down/lightning my bleeding, but I am still bleeding. :(

Just the past two days .. because of issues at work and the way things worked out (not allowing me to insert the 10 a.m. dose) my bleeding has stopped to almost nothing, for the most part. (This morning, upon wakening and for the first hour or so, there seemed to be a bit more bleeding going on, but then it transitioned, once again, to just a trace, of which is very much less than when I was using the Progesterone on the twice a day timetable)

I have come back here because I am feeling like I definitely need some still .. a lot of support/feedback.

I finally had an ultrasound done last week. Drs. office just called and told me that I had many, many fibroids. (I have had fibroids all along, I think maybe 5?) But, now doc is telling me many, as in multiple, more than 5. The ultrasound technician mentioned the dreaded "H" word and now I am dreadfully worried that this doc is going to be recommending a hysterectomy. :( I have fought tooth and nail against a hysterectomy for too many years, and in the past, I know my fibroids have shrunk and become non-issues.

My question: my stomach, all of a sudden, over the past three weeks or so (since I began the 400mgs progesterone daily) is sticking out and I look like I am pregnant. Is there a chance that the progesterone has caused my fibroids to grow, or more to grow? I'm feeling like they must have spiraled out of control.

I have many concerns, but one of the biggest looming right now .. I am leaving on an overseas trip (May 15) and plan on being gone for 15 days. I don't know if anything significant (other than me continuing to try addressing holistically) can be done before that time? Not knowing exactly what "multiple fibroids" means, at this time, I'm not exactly sure what my options are? I am hoping I can get a lot of feedback from you gals?
Help?

Thanks much for any feedback any of you might be able to give me on this.

Jeannie
Mar 26, 2018
 Fibroid Diagnosis - Help?
by: Jeannie

Hi Girls,

Bumping this up, since I didn't receive any comments, etc .. from my most recent post.

Does anyone have any thoughts about what's going on for me now .. and what the ultrasound reflected?

Thank you,
Jeannie
Mar 27, 2018
 Multiple Fibroids
by: Joy

Hi Jeannie

I wouldn't insert progesterone in the vagina during the day as so much gets wasted. It is best to insert at night and get into bed and rub progesterone cream on your skin in the morning As mentioned above, the protocol does help the body absorb smaller fibroids back into the body, larger ones usually require surgery. You need to deal with the inflammation that is causing them and the protocol will help. It does take a long time for positive signs to be felt.

Progesterone often causes strange things to take place, which could explain your swollen stomach, but it could also be the fibroids causing it. I understand that you are going away soon, but progesterone therapy is not an overnight fix. If you have multiple fibroids this could take much longer, or you may need surgery. If you can, give progesterone a chance to work.
Mar 27, 2018
 Non-stop bleeding
by: Rachel

Hi there. I believe fibroids tend to shrink as you get older. I wouldn’t think a hysterectomy is a must. Besides, it is your body! I found this which may be some help. https://draxe.com/fibroids/
Mar 29, 2018
 Calcified Fibroid
by: Jeannie

Hi again Girls,

Well .. it turns out that my "multiple" fibroid issues is actually one (just one) calcified fibroid that has shifted so that it is now sitting on the edge of my uterine lining. My doctor indicated that I could choose a hysterectomy, of course, or he could do a hysterscope with a myosure procedure. (He just shaves off the edge of the calcified fibroid that's causing my issues.)
He thinks the myosure procedure should do the trick to stop all of my bleeding. But wouldn't guarantee that. Of course, I chose the myosure. :)
The only problem is .. I can't get in until May 4. :(
I asked him a lot of questions about hormones and how they affect that and he indicated that once a fibroid is calcified, nothing can touch it, not even hormones. So .. that's kind of a relief? He also told me to try to go completely off of the progesterone, of which I've been trying to do, but the bleeding is coming back so I will continue on with the progesterone until I have the procedure, I guess. At least it seems to be controlling the bleeding? He indicated that may be the case.

Anyone else have advice about calcified fibroids now?
Oh also, my progesterone levels are very, very, very high. (Startling high, is what my doctor said.) My estrogen level, almost non-existent.
He also stated that the other fibroids, that I have had forever, are all shrunk down to very small sizes. (Yay!) And that I should not be worried about the hormone pellets that I am using in the dosages I am getting. That was a huge YAY for me!

I would welcome any and all feedback NOW on what one could do (in the interim) about calcified fibroids. I really, really don't want/need to keep bleeding for a whole 'nother month.

Thanks girls for "listening" to all of my issues ..

Jeannie
Apr 02, 2018
 Non-stop bleeding
by: Rachel

Are you on Facebook? There is a great group called magnesium advocacy group, that I think you should join. There are lots of knowledgeable folk there who have helped me loads.
Apr 03, 2018
 Thank you!
by: Jeannie

Hi Rachel,

Thanks much .. I will do that.
In my reading, since doc told me about the calcified fibroids, I have read that magnesium can be used to help dissolve those. (I believe that's what the magnesium does to those?)

Anyway .. I am on FB and will be checking that out.

Thank you,
Jeannie
Apr 04, 2018
 non-stop bleeding
by: Rachel

See you there. Robert Morley heads the group. I thoroughly recommend it. And you can ask advice and have consultations.

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