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Daily use of progesterone

by Rnaxand
(Canada)

Hello! Hope you are doing well. I have a question.... I was told a couple months ago to use progesterone daily, even throughout my cycle, for estrogen dominance and am now wondering when and how should I start changing it to only using it on days 1-12?

Also I'm scared if the symptoms return because I've just started feeling good on the 2nd month using it daily and I feel as if it helps my low cortisol and hashimotos...I don't know what's going to happen when I have to switch to using it on and off...please I would really appreciate any advice on how to make the switch and what to expect and how will I know when I'm ready to switch from daily use to only using it during ovulation?

Thank you so much!!!! Take care!

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Jul 11, 2017
 Why?
by: Kelly

Why would you reduce use of daily use progesterone if it is working?

Do you also supplement with vitamin D?

Does it stop menstruation? I'm interested because I have anemia and pain due to increased inflammation during this time.

What dose are you taking?

My doctor told me that it would also have positive results such as smoother skin, which interests me, considering I suffer from a malar rash and hives.

Sorry for all the questions but I feel they are so important.

Good luck on your journey.
Jul 11, 2017
 Daily use of progesterone
by: Joy

Hi Rnaxand

Correct and I think I advised that you should do this. It should be used every day for 2-6 months or until all adverse symptoms have cleared and progesterone has become the dominant hormone.

During this time your cycle would have regulated and returned to normal with a regular cycle. Has this happened? Have all your adverse symptoms now cleared? Your symptoms will only return if progesterone is not yet the dominant hormone.

Always listen to your body. If you are ready to reduce, then please start to reduce very slowly, 20mg at a time. Stay on the reduced amount for a week then continue to reduce again and so on. I am so pleased that you have achieved some success, so please be careful when reducing. It will now be up to you to find a level that suits you but never use less than 100mg of Natpro.

Just confirm how much Natpro you are using per day. The correct way would be to reduce first and then use by following your cycle. I take it that your Vitamin D3 level is good? it should be maintained at a good level at all times.

I must also just point out that there are many who can't use by following their cycle as then need the extra progesterone throughout the month. Age also plays a part, if in Peri-Menopause and Menopause it really is best to use the cream every day with no breaks at all.

Good luck.
Jul 11, 2017
 why?
by: Joy

Hi Kelly

That's a good question and questions are always good. Once progesterone has become the dominant hormone and all adverse symptoms have cleared one can reduce the amount of cream used to no less than 100mg per day and if desired use by following your cycle again. If pregnancy is the aim, following the cycle is necessary. It can stop menstruation when first using it, but this settles down as the body adjusts.

Sounds to me as though you are either suffering from Endometriosis or Fibroids, have you been tested. The are both caused by oxidative stress and as you correctly state, inflammation. If the inflammation is not dealt with you will always suffer. On the pages listed below are potent anti-inflammatories that will help you with this. Between 200-400mg of Natpro progesterone cream is needed, more if symptoms are severe.

This protocol will help you, it is also excellent for heavy/continual bleeding:

HEAVY BLEEDING PROTOCOL
* 400-500mg Natpro Progesterone Cream per day
* 2000mg N-Acetyl-Cysteine (NAC) per day
* 2000mg Taurine per day
* 5000iu's Vitamin D per day, more if deficient
* 1000mg Bioflavanoids per day

You asked about vitamin D3, what is your level as a deficiency reduces the benefits of progesterone and is vital to help fight inflammation.

Please read these pages and the study reference papers:

How to use Progesterone Cream

Estrogen Dominance

Endometriosis

Fibroids

Inflammation

Vitamin D3

Magnesium
Jul 18, 2017
 I increased the dose
by: Rnaxand

Hello thanks for replying.

My cycle does come regularly but is still very light and only lasts 1-2 days so it's not quite fixed yet and during my period this month I was having suicidal thoughts and increased progesterone to 300mg per day and I'm wondering is this okay for estrogen dominance because you told me to use 100-200 but I increased it and im scared that this is to much?? Should I decrease it back to 200? And I'm not taking natpro. I'm taking onas natural progesterone 3% and 10%.

I am not sure what my Vit D levels are but I am taking 10 000 IU per day. I am wondering can I get Vit D poisoning from this?

Please let me know thanks! Take care.
Jul 18, 2017
 Low cortisol
by: Rnaxand

Hello again I'm also wondering what do you think of dr lams article?


I am asking because I also have low aldosterone and cortiosl so I'm scared..I really want progesterone to work but after reading this article I am scared that perhaps I increased progesterone to too much??

Do you agree or disagree with this article? Please let me know what you think thanks again.
Jul 21, 2017
 I increased the dose
by: Joy

Hi Rnaxand

I think it is best that you discuss this with the maker of the cream that you are using. A 10% is rather high and I certainly do not agree with it. Advise given is based on a 3.33%, such as Natpro, so when I say to use 200mg per day I do not mean a 10% cream.

I am not sure where you got vitamin D poisoning from. Have you read the Vitamin D3 page given to you?

Take care.
Jul 21, 2017
 Explanation
by: Rnaxand

Hello thanks for replying.

I am using a 10% and 3% together becasue the 3% is 1/4 tsp contains 38mg usp progesterone and the 10% contains 125mg progesterone per 1/4 tsp.

So in the morning I take 125+19 (1/8 tsp of the 3%) and at noon I take an extra 12% and at 4-5pm I take 125+19 (1/8 tsp of the 3%). So the total is 307mg per day now.

Sorry for the misunderstanding! I just wanted to explain how much I'm taking.
Jul 24, 2017
 Progesterone blocking herbs
by: Faith

Hello, I have been following Womhoo, Dr. Peter Eckert's advise for two years with some positive results. He has a list of estrogenic herbs that disrupt the hormone balance- Aloe vera is a big no no on his list.

Ona's progesterone cream has Aloe and could be causing estrogen dominance reactions for you. I have found if I come in contact with these herbs or xeno estrogens,such as perfumes, I have a major estrogen flair up so I avoid them.
Jul 24, 2017
 Daily use of progesterone
by: Alyce

I have always queried using a 10% cream, I got so confused and used it as advised on this website, only to find out that I was using so much more. You have to use less cream but I got very confused and did not feel in control. I switched back to using NatPro because of this. I am a much happier person now, NatPro works for me.
Jul 24, 2017
 10% cream
by: Rnaxand

Really? I'm glad that you're doing good :)

I have been using 307mg in total from the other cream because its more cost efficient for me and I don't use as much and so far I feel pretty okay so I'm going to see how this goes...thanks for the comment and I'm glad you are doing well.

Take care. Xxx
Jul 25, 2017
 Cream
by: Rnaxand

Faith-
I didn't know that! Omg I feel so dumb now...:( which cream do you use then?? Thanks for this information!
Jul 25, 2017
 Ingredients
by: Rnaxand

Hello again Faith I just contacted Ona and she told me that none of creams actually have aloe Vera in them (those are all the old labels) and they will use them until they run out. All creams have the procream ingredients.
Feb 07, 2019
 1000mg daily for migraines
by: Danielle W

Hello and Help,

I am currently on 1000mg of cream a day. 500mg morning and night, and have been for 13 months. I am 47 and had estrogen migraines daily, (due to hrt previously) now because of the cream I am currently having 1-2 a week instead.

I am concerned that I am forcing early menopause and possibly going to get cancer because all my advice on high dose cream is from here (this site) and anecdotal. All other research seems to say to cycle, I am currently not taking any breaks, and therefore no longer having periods. And to use much less progesterone. I wholeheartedly have thrown myself into this site and have done what is suggested. I just need reassurance and maybe some scientific information. Does anyone have any other sites or books or studies that back this up? Maybe I am paranoid but, so much conflicting info and so many dear ones have died of cancer, even those on high dose progesterone cream....


I hope this doesn't offend I am very appreciative for any guidance. Thank you, Danielle

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